If it had been “How Great Thou Art,” he probably would have beaten the parking lot rush and gotten home early to get the grill going. The practice of patriotic music at Mass is worth deeper examination, if only for a reminder that citizenship of any country is no more a guarantee of salvation than membership in any religion. I argued that love of country is sacred. Feels too close to the Crusades for comfort. I thought it was great. I learned them in grade school. Not sure they do that anymore. I love Jerusalem, but can you just remove the mention of english sod? Change ). Many LDS believe that the Founding Fathers wrote the US Constitution for the express purpose of enabling the restoration of the Gospel.
I wouldn’t mind at all if we demilitarized the English version of the song in a similar fashion.
No wonder, like the man at the Independence Day Mass, we participate more when the congregation is singing patriotic songs. Whether you're celebrating with a backyard barbecue, a trip to the nearest body of water or just chilling at home, an essential part of the day is the music. To be honest, the question always makes me uneasy. Furthermore, the songs celebrated political values that the church did not yet appreciate. If ‘Be Still, My Soul’ is included in the new hymnal, then Finnish Saints will have a patriotic song there. . No crown.
It *is* possible that all of them fall short, but some fall shorter than others. The church is global but I am not.
by Jack Cottrell (Notes) on Friday, November 27, 2009 at 2:13pm. A foreign visitor or an illegal immigrant in the congregation might feel a little out of place.
Some would argue it is better to skip the patriotic songs than to risk creating divisions within a congregation. 1. After all, it mentions God only in the last, never-sung verse, and its martial provenance and recent silent protests during the playing of the national anthem have made the song somewhat controversial. I loved it.
I already submitted my lengthy suggestions for additions to the hymnbook, and was pretty ruthless about what should be cut from both the current hymnbook and children’s song book. Pastors need to do church God’s way, not our way. Enjoy it, if that’s your thing. It’s jingoistic patriotism (often the way American patriotism manifests) that’s the problem. … But according to this SL Trib story, the new LDS hymnal that is being produced will not include national anthems, suggesting other patriotic songs might be dropped as well. This is evidenced by more than the singing volume of “America the Beautiful” compared to “Immaculate Mary.” A few years ago a Gallup poll asked Americans of various religious faiths how strongly they identified with the United States and their religion. Most of the ward members were military families from elsewhere (“carpetbaggers”). I don’t think anybody’s mentioned “Battle Hymn of the Republic” yet–also another old favorite of mine. Beyond that poignant verse, the song’s peaceful evocations of a positive love of country, without bellicosity and revenge, struck the right note. Segment 2 (08:29) What clothing and attire is appropriate for church? We did have God Save the Queen, I suppose, which is New Zealand’s mostly ignored “co-equal” national anthem.
These songs will definitely be our summer-time anthem and are sure to get stuck in your party guests’ head. In “Our First, Most Cherished Liberty,” the recent document on religious freedom (one of those more recently accepted political doctrines), the U.S. bishops write, “To be Catholic and American should mean not having to choose one over the other.” To be sure, that statement focused on a very different point, where the choice is forced on Catholics, but the sentiment expressed points to a stark reality: Many American Catholics seem to have voluntarily prioritized country over creed. The whole national anthem ritual in the NFL (with players standing, kneeling, or sitting) sort of stirred the pot recently, and the President threw gas on the fire by playing up the issue.
We’ve composed a list of the most patriotic songs that honor our brave soldiers and acknowledge our beloved nation. I served in the military and I enjoy patriotic music and ceremonies, and I believe that love of God and love of Country can coexist peacefully, if done tastefully. My kids sang it all the time at school, so much so that when my daughter went away on a school residential trip several years ago there was spontaneous singing of ‘Jerusalem’ in the camp by the students. 9, pages 31–35). I eventually understood that this restriction was not just about the Civil War historical issues, but also a manifestation of his quiet resentment toward the continuous rotations of Mormons from “out west” who he perceived as pushing Utah cultural norms down his genteel Southern throat. My husband and I’s (grammar?) By the relief office I seen my people; I don’t remember what he argued, but our disagreement came to an immediate end when I learned that HIS country’s anthem was not in the Spanish hymnbook. I just spent the last three years in Canada and realized how absurd it was to have American anthems in the hymnal of a global church. The Catholic Church is a universal church, transcending national borders, a concept reflected in its long reluctance to accept vernacular languages. “Battle Hymn” celebrates the Union’s abolitionist goals in the Civil War with “the coming of the Lord” and concludes with a stirring commission: “As [Christ] died to make men holy, let us die to make men free” (we more squeamish modern singers sometimes substitute “live to make men free”).
In my experience, these, along with Christmas carols, tend to get the most participation from the congregation. “America the Beautiful,” by Katharine Lee Bates, first appeared as a poem in the Congregationalist, and a church organist composed the music in 1895. Elders drinking wine. What about singing a patriotic song at Mass? Agree that the military songs which are generally from a period when war was seen as glorious need to be removed or modified. Is this land made for you and me? Attending Sunday Mass last year over Independence Day weekend, I watched as the priest gave the final blessing and a man a couple rows ahead genuflected and hurried toward the door. The son of a World War II veteran, versed, if wary, in the trappings of patriotism, it’s no wonder I’m a pushover for these songs. The theological case is weak, given our faith’s statelessness.
Like many American Catholics, my patriotism tends to be more public than my faith. 82, No. I also happen to love “Onward, Christian Soldiers”, probably more for the music than the lyrics.
On national holidays—usually Memorial Day, Independence Day, and maybe Veterans Day—Catholic Mass often features patriotic songs. But perhaps it, too, has a place. It is composed by Finnish composer Jean Sibelius and in original language it is called ‘Finlandia’. In my view this drives patriotism in USA congregations. If leaders don’t promptly print off copies of patriotic songs each time the holiday rolls around, I’ll eat my hat. However, I’ve not taken the time to really explain why. every flaw.” God blesses the country in “God Bless America” and lets loose “the fateful lightning of his terrible swift sword” in “The Battle Hymn of the Republic.” As might be expected, several of the composers of these songs were religious. The emotional case—which essentially asks indulgence or tolerance for attachment to country—is less weak, but risky. .
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